Author

Subject: Twin Red Violins

Tom

05:04 02/01/2002 

I am at a party with many of my friends who are musicians. One of the main players at this scene displayed two matching violins he had acquired earlier. He was very proud of them, as they were expensive. They were delicate and detailed. The finish was immaculate and they were the colour of burgundy marble.

The party got a little out of hand and the violins were getting bumped around and he was concerned but seemed like he was too pre-occupied to do anything about it.

As the party came to a close, people were pretty messed up and I decided to take an active role in protecting these instruments. I picked them up and was moving them through the people around the room and passed out on the floor when something snagged the strings of the violin and damaged both of them severely as I was carrying them. I was so let down that tears welled up in my eyes. I was trying to help and was the very one who screwed things up.

Dream edited for easier reading - JT, 2005

2004

Jane Teresa's View

Jane Teresa Anderson

Overview Interpretation & Dream Alchemy Practice suggestion

OVERVIEW INTERPRETATION

Hi Tom,

As a musician, is the violin your main instrument today? If not, the first thing to establish it what the violin represents for you personally.

Did you take violin lessons when you were younger? Did you become accomplished? When did you stop playing the violin and why? How did you feel when you were playing the violin? How did you feel when you stopped playing the violin, or left an orchestra?

In your dream you felt let down and felt grief when the violins were damaged. If you think back to your time playing the violin (or your current situation if it is still your main instrument) when did you feel let down in some way? When did you suffer emotionally (damaged), or when did your violin playing suffer? What damaged your violin playing or what threatens to damage it?

What does the burgundy marble colour mean to you? Did you ever have an item of clothing, a car, a book, an instrument or anything of this colour that was precious to you? Burgundy is also an alcoholic drink and your dream featured a wild party. Has alcohol played a role in damaging your music (you or someone else’s drinking?)? Marble is an ancient, solid rock. Could the marble in your dream represent rock music or rock as in a solid basis, such as a solid basis in music through early violin lessons? As you contemplate these questions, the meaning of the violin in your dream will emerge.

Dreams use word play or partial word play. Could violin reflect violence (alcohol, family?) especially as the violins were damaged (hurt). In your dream you were trying to help in a “messed up” situation. Did you try to help in an emotionally messed up situation in your past that only ended up with you feeling hurt? Are you the one who has been messed up?

In your dream you passed out when the strings were snagged. You became unconscious. This often happens in a dream when the experience being recalled has been pushed into the unconscious. The dream is showing you that a certain situation was too much for you so you became unconscious to it. In your dream you seem to quickly regain consciousness and then there is the grief and the feeling of being so let down. This is likely to be the grief and the feeling that you suppressed at the time coming back into consciousness. When you become aware of feelings you have pushed away in the past, you can release them, let the tears flow, allow the grieving which is a necessary part of healing and become free to move on.

Why twin violins? Were there two occasions, two people? Did you have two opportunities that were damaged? Did you have, or do you now have, two opportunities?

You described the violins as “matching”. Could they represent a relationship (a perfect match)?

The violins were “delicate and detailed”. Does this describe your talent or does it describe the emotional (damage) issue that is both delicate and detailed? The owner was too preoccupied to protect the violins. Where, in your life now or in your past, have you been too preoccupied to protect something very precious to you? Is it your musical talent that is precious or difficult relationships around you that are precious?

At the start of your dream the owner was proud. At the end of the dream you felt let down when you had tried to help. Dreams often refer to the past to help us to understand our current situation. At the time of this dream, what were you feeling let down about and how did this connect to pride? Knowledge is freedom.

DREAM ALCHEMY PRACTICE

Gut reaction poetry:

The title of your free-form poem is “Only trying to help – Ode to a Violin”. Keep it going for 5 - 10 minutes. (See how to do this in next section.)

How to do this:

Take a blank piece of paper and a pen. Set a timer for somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes. Do not allow yourself to think! Start by writing the title as your first line and just let it flow. Keep on writing even if your poem seems childish or nonsensical. No rhyming or verses unless it comes out that way! The only definition of ‘poetry’ here is that you’re not writing sentences and you’re not using up all the space on your lines. Let your words find their own shape on the page.

How does this work?

By not thinking, by keeping the words flowing, you are letting your right brain and unconscious mind do most of the work. They created the original dream so they know what these symbols mean for you. They will reveal. You will be surprised.

More details on Gut Reaction Poetry as a Dream Alchemy Practice in: “Dream Alchemy”, by Jane Teresa Anderson, pages 324-7 and 334-5.

Jane Teresa Anderson

You can consult with Jane Teresa or her Dream Team and receive your interpretation by email within five working days.

ORIGINAL THREAD

Below is the original forum discussion on this dream, contributed before Jane Teresa's 2004 interpretation.

Darla

16:19 03/01/2002 

Maybe you are reliving the loss of something valuable?

tom

09:06 08/01/2002 

maybe. sounds right. But what do the violins represent?

Star

09:42 08/01/2002 

What do they mean to you Tom?? Easy way to uncover their meaning is to make out you are describing what they are and what they do to another who has absolutely no perception of what one is. There could also be a hidden meaning in the word Violin - and if you "play" with the word you may uncover it.

Music vibrates/resonates within us and each note corresponds with each chakra/energy centre within.

Music soothes the savage beast and has the ability to transform us, release "tension" etc.

Music represents expressing the Soul, getting in touch with one's Soul through music, which cuts through the barriers of intellect and logic. Finding our own Soul's rhythm and song, allowing music to free our Souls. Cultivating more reverence in our lives.

Do they link in with any time period in your life where you were trying to help but your actions were seen to have caused damage?

Hope that is of some assistance.

Tom

11:11 11/01/2002 

violins/violence?

Star

18:14 11/01/2002 

Ha, Ha, Ha, I immediately saw violin/violent but wanted you to get it for yourself.

Has there or is there a part of you that is being protective and keeping too pre-occupied, not allowing you to truly feel your own rhythm or emotions?

Perhaps, if that is the case, do you think the dream may be showing you that whilst protecting yourself from how you really feel that you are causing unintentional damage to yourself in the process??

The tears may be a release of sadness which you have not been wanting to feel in waking reality??

I read a story recently that went along the following lines.

A little boy who was feeling very hurt and angry was about to run off into the forest but his wise Grandfather stopped him. He asked his grandson to pick up rocks and hold them until he felt that the rocks he was holding equaled his pain and anger. He picked up many and the weight of them was heavy.

The wise Grandfather then told him that he had a choice - he could carry the weight of it with him for the rest of his life or until he chose to let it go, or he could let it go now and not carry it with him.

The Grandfather then held his grandson as the little boy cried his eyes out and didn't let him go until he smiled again.

Whilst most guys have been conditioned by their male elders that it is weak and not manly to cry I've personally found you feel a heap better after a damn good session of crying.

Something changes in you and you feel lighter and freer and less re-active to those around you. Half the time you don't know exactly what has changed, you just know you are different.

Tears cleanse the Soul and remove our rust so to speak. To feel is to heal.

Tom

07:57 14/01/2002 

Ahhh Star, my meta-physical Zena Warrior. I think I have narrowed the mystery down to this. I have a law suit that I am "fighting" and it has been on the forefront of my mind. I recently was involved in another scuffle outside a local pub with the owner. The law suit I mentioned stemmed for a 5 yr old fight I got into where a jealous cousin of a girl attacked me out of the blue. I didn't see it coming, just BOOM! Now there is a lawsuit with the club owner. both of these incidents were violent. Apparently they are manifesting themselves as Violins. Note, they were "red" violins. I abhor violence but in a world that is becoming less and less concerned with education and civility, it is sometimes necessary to use self defence. Fighting and arguing upset me for days. Most men get over it quickly, i on the other hand do not. As far as the subject of crying, that is really not an option. Women get the advantage of "having a 'good' cry". men in the western culture simply do not have this option. Rarely do I cry but I would love to sometimes but here lies the paradox. Crying makes men feel worse not better. it makes you feel weak and gulity for not owning up to the responsibility of being a man. Buck up camper, get wtih the program! That kinda shit. Once it has been programmed onto the hard drive it is very very difficult to delete. This complicates the interanl wiring and causes traffic jams in the brain. Dig? Women have many advantages that they don't even realize. We deal with things that are totally foreign to you's guys.

Star

13:22 14/01/2002 

Ha, Ha, Ha, no-one's ever called me a metaphysical Zena Warrior before, will take that as a compliment Tom, thank you.

Although I may come across as having a Zena Warrior like nature at times, I sure as heck don't look like her.

Yeah I dig and usually I dig deeply and I don't doubt guys do work differently to us women which is why the two seem to have so much trouble communicating as each hears different things to what is being said and meant.

Read somewhere recently that "scientific research" had uncovered that the majority of men communicate only with their left brain whereas women communicate with left and right - hmmm... explains why we are often hemispheres apart.

Perhaps that is why guys die in most cases earlier than women, and why women generally out number men, never seems to be enough men around, and also why men externalise a great deal of aggression. Not saying women don't externalise stuff but how many women do you see bashing the crap out of each other on a football field chasing a damn stupid ball in an effort to kick it between two posts? Men seem to hang onto so much shit they don't really even need to, just cause they think us women want them to be tough.

I never ever see a man as being weak for allowing himself to express his emotions as I know exactly how much strength and courage it takes to actually get in there, feel those yukky awful painful spaces fully and release them.

To my way of thinking it takes more courage and strength to face and feel them than it does to ignore or deny they exist whether you are male or female, than it does to just let them explode willy nilly- hmmm... speaking of explosions all this violence you are speaking of reminds me of the cemetary - fire cracker dream you had. Something else occured to me about that dream - Jane Teresa mentioned in someone's post way back about rust being possibly associated to trust. If you have a look at that dream you posted re the cemetary you may get what I am saying.

Whilst I do understand the enormous impact subconscious conditioning has on each of us I simply do not understand why anyone would allow themselves to feel guilty for feeling what lays within them. Children never do, they just let it all out, but because the adults in their lives can't handle it they are often told to "behave", or not to be stupid or slapped and smacked for expressing their anger or whatever fully. why do we all fear what we feel???

Things are only ever an option or not an option if we allow them to be, it is always us who makes the choice, and who the heck is going to know you've had a damn good howl if you need one anyway? You say all that male macho stuff is crap and that you know you shouldn't have to feel that way, yet you do. Yeah Yeah I know the old internal wiring coming to the fore.

If you treat what you have experienced externally with these fights as you would a dream Tom what exactly are those experiences showing you about yourself i.e. what are you fighting with, within yourself???

"Self defence" is an interesting term to play with, don't you think?

Fence to me implies a barrier, rather than a boundary.

Chow for now.

Ha, Zena Warrior indeed. :)

Star

13:41 14/01/2002 

Hey, I just got a flash - delicate and detailed - is that not a reflection of your own delicate and detailed nature which you are trying to defend, protect?

Tom

11:05 22/01/2002 

You must be an Aqarius. I am a Taurus. I find it difficult to navigate in your deep waters. We are Earth bound creatures. We like (and not necessarily in this order) To eat, drink, party and have sex. It is all this other stuff that just seems to keep getting in the way dammit. But I am studying lucid dreaming. I think it is an intersting subject. My curiosity has been piqued if you will. In the states, they have these goggles that have REM sensors in them. These sensors can determine when you arrive in the REM state. Once there, they begin to blink a soft light in the corner of your eyes. This, with some practice and training, allows you to be alerted in your dream that,"Hey this is just a dream!" Then you can do what ever you want. If I want to cry, fly, be a rock star or bang Britany Spears I can. This is supposed to allow you to really really delve into the subconsious. I am a little scared to try it but I am like a cat. I just gotta know. What do you think? My email address is nakedfountain@aol.com.

Star

15:32 22/01/2002 

Hmm... no Tom I am not an Aquarian and whilst I do not like the limitations which being a certain astrological sign creates in some minds I am, like yourself, a Taurean.

As for what do I think .... as John Lennon once said "Whatever gets you through the night is alright."

There are other ways to enter dreamstate consciously, the one I use for participants in my workshops, is one of the most ancient available, the Shaman's Drum.

The Didjeridoo is also another ancient instrument that assists, however my father gave me my Drum long before I knew what I would be using it for and for personal reasons I chose to still use it, rather than the Dij.

In your country there is excellent hands on help available to you if you wish to learn more about the Dreamworlds and how to navigate them consciously.

If you wish to truly work out what your dreams are telling you about yourself and shift your shit so to speak, Jane Teresa's books are the best I have found.

As for this is "just a dream" hmmm.... is the dream just a dream or is waking reality just a dream? My experiences have shown me without a shadow of doubt, it is ALL a dream of my own creation.

I've said it many times here and I'll say it again it is imperative when working with your dreams, whether you believe they are precognitive or not, to treat ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING in a dream as a symbolic aspect of Self. Only then can you find truth.

As a Seneca Indian Healer once said - "The Dream World is the Real World."

As Joseph Campbell said "Dreams are an inexhaustible source of Spiritual information about yourself."

As Robert Moss says "Dreams make us whole. They show us the many aspects of ourselves and help us to bring them under one roof."

and as John Lennon said in his song Imagine -

"You may say I'm a Dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope one day you'll join us and the world will be as One."

He was a man with a wisdom and knowledge way ahead of most and whilst I never understood half his lyrics as a child/teenager once I knew exactly what he was saying from my own experiences - I truly saw what an incredible gift he had been trying to give humanity that most in fear, and due to their conditioning could not sadly see.

Whilst you feel that it is all this other stuff that keeps getting in the way - it is precisely this other stuff that needs to be shifted first, before you can truly wake up and fly.

If you have a house that is cluttered with things and you keep collecting more things, eventually you cannot even reach the front door.

That I gotta know determination is what got me to where I am now at. None of it was painless, none of it was easy, it took nearly 10 years of extensive rubbish removal, of working with my dreams, and of entering spaces within myself that required a great deal of courage to delve into, but all of it was more than worth it.

Safe journeying Tom, no doubt all you need will come to you, when you need it most, as no matter what path any of us take - eventually we all reach the same place.

Blessings - Star.